Mike Huckabee - Religious Bigot
The Most Reverend Mike Huckabee and his followers are proven religious bigots. How do we know this to be true? Because they consistently attack only one religious sect in all of Christendom for supposed “weird” beliefs, — the Mormons.
This is not only bigotry, it is shameful ignorance to boot, as every sect of Christianity is guilty of believing in the “weird.” Christian beliefs begin with angels appearing to pregnant women; one was a virgin who went on to birth the Son of God. This same Son of God grew to manhood and at death, arose from the dead and publicly ascended to heaven. Basically, all Christian sects espouse these fundamental weird beliefs.
Then, about 300 years after the death of Jesus Christ, His official Church officially declared a new “weirdness” added to its beliefs. It was “The Holy Trinity” that, for whatever reason, Jesus forgot to explain to his followers. That weird tenet meant that Jesus, the son of a virgin and of God, along with the mysterious Holy Spirit and also God himself were really all one being. That was so difficult to explain to Christian followers that the Church decreed that anyone who did not believe be executed. Finally some centuries later, Saint Patrick found the shamrock in Ireland which somehow explained it all, and saved the necks of many.
Does Mike Huckabee condemn Roman Catholicism for its weird belief in transubstantiation? Basically when Catholics partake of the sacrament of communion, the bread and the wine are NOT symbols of Christ’s flesh and blood, but the food and drink are physically transformed into the real flesh and blood of Jesus, which his followers devour. NO, they never condemn Catholics for this “weird” belief!
Do Reverend Huckabee and his followers condemn Unitarians for their strangeness and call then non-Christians? Do they ever rail against the American presidents John Adams, John Quincy Adams and Millard Fillmore who were of that faith? In fact, one of America’s greatest Founding Fathers, John Adams, rejected the Christian Trinity and the divinity of Jesus, and that was the reason he joined the Unitarian faith. What condemnation do these former Presidents receive from religious bigots such as Mike Huckabee? NONE!
What about Dwight Eisenhower’s Jehovah’s Witness faith, that he actually attempted to hide? Perhaps President Eisenhower was aware of religious bigots in his time, such as today’s Christian evangelicals. Eisenhower’s family were followers of the Watchtower Society and he was raised in that faith, which later took the name Jehovah’s Witnesses. The home where he was raised served as the local WatchTower meeting Hall. Ike’s father received a WatchTower funeral when he died and his mother remained an active Jehovah’s Witness her entire life. President Eisenhower was sworn into the presidency with a WatchTower printed Bible.
Do America’s religious bigots condemn as “weird” those Christian churches that follow Biblical teachings literally? In the Book of Mark, Jesus said: “And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.” Do Huckabee and his acolytes condemn those who practice the Biblical teaching of glossolalia? See YouTube example: Speaking in Tongues. What about the Biblical teaching of handling serpents while in the spirit of Jesus Christ, which some Christians follow still? See YouTube’s Snake Handling Christians. Has anyone ever heard Reverend Mike Huckabee and his followers condemn these beliefs of some Christian faiths? NO!
Reverend Mike Huckabee and his followers spew their religious bigotry, in this day and age, only against the Mormon faith and against Mike Huckabee’s political rival, Mitt Romney, who is a practitioner of that faith, because they find some of the teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be “weird.”
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The reason Huckabee’s supporters point out that the Mormon religion have many teachings which differ greatly from “mainstream” Christian religions is that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. If he was a member of some other “weird” Christian sect that is the sect they would be talking about. Many Christians are just as opposed to some of the “weird” teachings of the Catholics and the Jehovah’s Witnesses as they are the Mormons. But since no Catholic or JW is now running for president against Huckabee they now see no reason to point out the “weird” teachings of Catholics and JWs.
In any case, Mormons have no right complaining when “mainstream” Christians criticize some of their “weird” beliefs. For that is exactly what the Mormon church is all about, criticizing the beliefs of other Christian denominations. The Mormon church was founded on the idea that it is the restoration of Christ’s true church, a restoration that was necessary because, according to Mormons, nearly everything now taught by other Christian churches is false, unbiblical, and corrupt. That’s why Mormon missionaries feel compelled to knock on the doors of people they know already attend a Christian Church, to help them see their church’s supposed errors and talk them into leaving their supposedly “corrupt” church and joining what they claim is “the one true church” - their own.
With these facts in mind, Mormons show themselves to be absolute hypocrites when they complain about others criticizing their beliefs.
Comment by Mike S — December 13, 2007 @ 11:18 am
No Catholic running against Huckabee? What happened to Rudy Giuliani?
According to the U.S. Constitution, Mormons have both the Constitutional right to practice their faith and to also participate in politics by running for office, same as Catholics and Baptists.
Comment by Kerfuffles — December 13, 2007 @ 12:17 pm
“According to the U.S. Constitution, Mormons have both the Constitutional right to practice their faith and to also participate in politics by running for office.”
And they are doing so, are they not? That doesn’t mean that people cannot disagree with them.
Baptists are not ‘attacking’ Mitt Romney for his faith, rather, they strongly disagree with it; and not only Mormonism, they disagree with a number of other groups that they do not find Biblical. As for this being ‘wrong’, consider what Mormon ‘prophets’ and leaders have said about ALL other faiths within Christianity:
Joseph Smith:
If I show, verily, that I have the truth of God, and show that ninety-nine out of every hundred professing religious ministers are false teachers, having no authority, while they pretend to hold the keys of God’s kingdom on earth, and was to kill them because they are false teachers, it would deluge the whole world with blood. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith,Pages 344-345)
The scriptures are a mixture of very strange doctrines to the Christian world, who are blindly led by the blind. (History of the Church,Volume 6 Page 478)
What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith,
Page 270)
Nothing less than a complete apostasy from the Christian religion would warrant the establishment of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. (History of the Church,Volume 1 Page xl)
Brigham Young:
The Christian God is the Mormon’s Devil. (Journal of Discourses,Volume 5 Page 331)
The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God. (Journal of Discourses, Volume 8 Page 171)
We are the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints—not a church but the church—and we have the doctrine of life and salvation for all the honest-in-heart in all the world. Who else has got it? Is it to be found in the creeds of Christendom? It is not. (Journal of Discourses,Volume 12 Page 173)
When the light came to me, I saw that all the so-called Christian world was groveling in darkness. (Journal of Discourses,Volume 5 Page 73)
John Taylor:
What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute beast. (Journal of Discourses, Volume 6 Page 25)
We talk about Christianity, but it is a perfect pack of nonsense. . . . It is a sounding brass and a tinkling symbol; it is as corrupt as hell; and the Devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century. (Journal of Discourses, Volume 6 Page 167)
Bruce R. McConkie:
And virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ. (Mormon Doctrine, Page 269)
There is much more of the same, but you get the idea; Christians bad, Mormons good. So why would you expect Christians to be motivated to vote and support a man whose very faith condemns their own?
Comment by Mule — December 13, 2007 @ 12:34 pm
I was surprised that Huckabee was so foolish to unleash the negative comment he made regarding Romney’s religion. I think his hatred toward Mormonism is so entrenched, that he just couldn’t help it. Once a bigoted statement like that is out, you can’t take it back by an apology. Your true colors are revealed to the world
Comment by HT Springer — December 13, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
CAUTION: The comment above by Mule is what we come to expect from the supporters of Mike Huckabee. He has gone to great effort to leave quotations from Mormon texts, yet there is not one verification that these are in fact accurate quotations. This is a typical anti-Mormon bigot in action, slurring the faith of a political candidate, who in fact is NOT running as a “Mormon” candidate, but as a Republican.
Why not slur the Baptist faith of Mike Huckabee, as he is in fact running on his religion? No we “true” Americans won’t do that. Mike Huckabee is free to worship as he pleases. He is not free to impose his faith on the rest of us, which is what he wants to do when and if elected to the Presidency. One of the things he is for is mandatory teaching of the Holy Bible in public school. What about mandatory teaching of the Book of Mormon - is Romney demanding that? No. The Mormons, as do Catholics and Jews and others have their own religious schools where they teach their faith. We don’t want Mike Huckabee’s mandatory religion.
Kerfuffles’ posting has nothing to do with the Mormon faith. I am an American who believes in FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE for all, including Mormons.
Believe it or not, if one would look at some of my earlier writings, in the past, I have been a big defender of Christian Evangelicals against those who slurred them as bigots. Now I know what they really are. I’ve met the enemy, so to speak, and he is us.
Comment by Kerfuffles — December 13, 2007 @ 12:53 pm
“CAUTION: The comment above by Mule is what we come to expect from the supporters of Mike Huckabee. He has gone to great effort to leave quotations from Mormon texts, yet there is not one verification that these are in fact accurate quotations. This is a typical anti-Mormon bigot in action, slurring the faith of a political candidate.
Kerfuffles’ posting has nothing to do with the Mormon faith. I am an American who believes in FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE for all, including Mormons.
Believe it or not, if one would look at some of my earlier writings, in the past, I have been a big defender of Christian Evangelicals against those who slurred them as bigots. Now I know what they really are. I’ve met the enemy, so to speak, and he is us.”
My friend, each one of the statements above is quoted, so that those curious about those statements can look them up and read for themselves. I have done so, as I have family that are LDS, and have studied their faith for years in an effort to witness to them. You can verify them for yourselves, the LDS church offers most of their writings online; or you can go to a library, or search the internet, as they are freely available. I am not ‘anti-Mormon’, but rather, I am pro-Jesus Christ, which means I subscribe to the scripture found in the Bible. I love Mormons, as I love all people. Again, I would ask you my friend, if I am a bigot for disagreeing with those prophets who by any definition, really were bigots, then I suppose that would make the whole of the Mormon faith one of bigotry, as they all claim to be members of the ‘one true church on the face of the earth’, do they not?
Comment by Mule — December 13, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
Mule - This is not a religious blog, and I have no intentions of defending the Mormon religion or any other. I have no intentions of condemning any Christian beliefs, including those of the Mormons. I believe in freedom of conscience, upon which this country was founded.
You are not a bigot for disagreeing with the Mormon religion. You are a bigot for slurring a political candidate Mitt Romney because of his faith.
Comment by Kerfuffles — December 13, 2007 @ 1:11 pm
“You are not a bigot for disagreeing with the Mormon religion. You are a bigot for slurring a political candidate Mitt Romney because of his faith.”
Who slurred Mitt Romney because of his faith? Did Mike Huckabee slur Willard because he was curious about a tenant of the Mormon faith? In a nation with a long Christian heritage, can you imagine that people might want an answer to that question? Mormons do in fact believe that Satan is the brother of Jesus Christ, so why would that be a slur?
We all have freedom of conscience, as witnessed by our current discussion! You seem to be making the argument that Willard’s faith should not be considered in his candidacy; if so, then Willard himself disagrees with you, as witnessed by his Big Speech last week, remember? If Mitt agrees that faith should not be pushed out of the public square, then he has to consider that folks will be curious about his, if he intends for it to be in the public square, agreed? And there comes the rub…he casts himself as a Christian, and to many Christians, this is offensive and a misrepresentation. That is why it is a matter for public discourse; that does not make it bigotry, any more than Mitt saying he wouldn’t put a Muslim in his cabinet. It is a fundamental disagreement in beliefs, and to many folks, that is very important indeed. It doesn’t make one a bigot, or hateful; not any more than your careless slinging of the word ‘bigot’ around. May God bless you with wisdom and understanding!
Comment by Mule — December 13, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
I surprised not to see anyone point out that Baptist Apologetics which is the source of Huckabee’s mangled “Jesus is the Devils brother” nonsense was also the major source for,and developer of the religous argument that blacks were not fully human and thus slavery was justified.
Thats correct. Those Baptist preachers in those still standing historic Baptist churches, built with forced slave labor, with their slave galleries, developed and preached this doctrine very forcefully over a period of many years.
And they criticize Mormons for being racist? In what year was it that the first African American was elevated to a senior leadership position in an SBC aligned church?
Gee….once opened we can take this whole thing a long way!
Comment by aaron — December 13, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
So in his apology Huckabee claims that he is ignorant of Mormonism and that is what prompted the “innocent” question.
Does anyone here buy that Mike Huckabee is ignorant of Mormonism, but familiar enough to point out an obsure doctrine that is implied - but never taught in Mormon churches?
Mule, and other Huckabbe supporters - what will you say when they roll tape on national TV of Mike Huckabee (as governor) giving the keynote address to the Southern Baptist Convention annual conference - held in Salt Lake City in 1998.
His denial - will be exposed as an outright lie.
Jump off the bandwagon now, he is going down.
Comment by Martin — December 13, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
Yes, Mule, Mike Huckabee slurred Mitt Romney’s faith by the question about the “brother of Jesus.” It would be the same slur on Guiliani if the Reverend commented on the Catholic belief in transubstantiation.
I do not agree with Mitt Romney giving a speech on his personal faith and I think it sad that he thought it necessary. As for some Christians being offended by other followers of Jesus who call themselves Christians, all I can ask is what would Jesus call Himself? After reading your comments, I have a feeling He would not want to be a Christian.
Comment by Kerfuffles — December 13, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
So let me get this straight; if I ask you a question about Mormon doctrine, I’m slurring you? If I ask another person, that had engaged me in a discussion about it (which is what had happened…this is being taken out of context by the media)about a doctine, how is that slurring a man? For instance, take a look at aaron’s post, blaming all of Baptist theology for slavery in America. While it is obvious that aaron doesn’t know much about Baptist theology or apologetics (else he would have written something much different), I don’t feel like aaron has slurred me, a Baptist, by questioning some part of my faith. Surely you can see what I speak of?
Are you implying that Willard has no right to ask questions about Cathlocism, because he is not a member of that faith? If so, how did Willard manage to be a missionary for two years, knocking on the doors of French Christians (largely Catholic) and explain to them how their faith is wrong and that they should convert to Mormonism? After all, how can you claim to be a representative of the One True Church On Earth without claiming all others are wrong? So then, by your argument, Willard has repeatedly slurred all others that are not Mormon. Make sense?
As a Baptist, I can tell you what Jesus Christ called himself; the Son of God, the Son of Man, The Word, God in the flesh, Alpha and Omega, The Messiah, The Christ.
I don’t know how my shared ideas have offended you so much that you might think that my Lord and Savoir would want nothing to do with me, but it makes me feel sad for you, if that is what you really believe.
Comment by Mule — December 13, 2007 @ 5:59 pm
“I surprised not to see anyone point out that Baptist Apologetics which is the source of Huckabee’s mangled “Jesus is the Devils brother” nonsense was also the major source for,and developer of the religous argument that blacks were not fully human and thus slavery was justified.
Thats correct. Those Baptist preachers in those still standing historic Baptist churches, built with forced slave labor, with their slave galleries, developed and preached this doctrine very forcefully over a period of many years.
And they criticize Mormons for being racist? In what year was it that the first African American was elevated to a senior leadership position in an SBC aligned church?
Gee….once opened we can take this whole thing a long way! ”
““Jesus is the Devils brother” nonsense…”
So you don’t agree with the Mormon prophets? Good for you, my friend, good for you.
“was also the major source for,and developer of the religous argument that blacks were not fully human and thus slavery was justified.”
Actually this point was argued long before there were any Baptists in America, by the Spanish after the Entradas; the argument came to a head within the Catholic church in Europe, as many priests and others were sickened by the treatment of indigenous peoples and slaves by the conquistars and then colonial Spain. The argument continued in America as arguments for abolition grew, and various denominations experienced schisms because of it, therefore, all of the different Baptist Conventions in this country. Look it up. Thankfully, the better side of men won out and it was abolished after a horrible war. Blacks were allowed into Southern churches well before the turn of the century. I’m not even going to quote Mormon prophets and their sayings about ‘white and delightful’ and cursed skin, or the very, very late entry of blacks into the priesthood. Everyone knows about that. The fact is, everyone made mistakes based upon racism. Here is the difference; Southern Baptists claimed to be only men…the mistakes made by the Mormons were made by men that claimed to be PROPHETS. Prophets don’t make mistakes, at least the ones in the Bible didn’t. Consider that.
Why was there an argument in the first place? Read the Bible and show me where it talks about the evils of human slavery. You won’t find it, but rather you will find rules about treating slaves well (which wasn’t done in the US South by any means). You can see how a theological argument might arise. I think it is all summed up nicely by Jesus’ commandment to love our fellow man as ourselves, which would preclude slavery, in my opinion.
Comment by Mule — December 13, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
“Prophets don’t make mistakes, at least the ones in the Bible didn’t.”
That is news to me, Mule. I have been believing all my life that Jesus was the only perfect man to have lived.
Of the Biblical prophets you speak, first there was Father Adam who disobeyed God and was punished. The great whale gobbled up Jonah because he had sinned. Then came Abraham, Moses, Noah, King David and Solomon - sinners all who begged God’s forgiveness.
Comment by Kerfuffles — December 13, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
All this religion crap is way out of hand! It is the LAST or near last thing to appreciate in understanding whether the candidate has been taught right from wrong and that’s ALL! Any other reason is wrong as wrong can be, ya’ got it!?
The Huckster NOR Romney understand the first thing about right from wrong despite either of their religions as their records prove to anyone with an ounce of research done…Do yours and shut up about the stupid religious differences which amount to NOTHING!
Comment by Winghunter — December 13, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
I’m sorry if I didn’t make that clear; they didn’t make false prophecies.
Comment by Mule — December 13, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
Yes Mike Huckabee and his followers are proven religious bigots because they attack only on one religious sect in all Christendoms, Thanks for proving that with details.
Comment by Christianity — December 14, 2007 @ 7:08 am
As a member of the LDS faith, I would like to chime in. Regardless of what has been written above, I have nothing but utmost respect for peoples of another faith. My Mother is a Catholic. My Father is a Religious Scientist, my Brother is an Agnostic. I have yet to hear a single LDS sermon teaching that my family is going to hell if they don’t convert.
Comment by Mark W — December 16, 2007 @ 12:14 pm
btw - I looked up the references . . . and they are not accurate. ie, the Journal of Discourses were transciptions published in England, sometimes, inaccurately quoting the speaker.
Comment by Mark W — December 16, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
“In any case, Mormons have no right complaining when “mainstream” Christians criticize some of their “weird” beliefs. For that is exactly what the Mormon church is all about, criticizing the beliefs of other Christian denominations. (posted by Mike S.)
Really?
Find me a Mormon website or Mormon publication that attacks and criticizes any other denomination or faith - cuz I’ve been looking and I’ve never seen it.
The only criticism I’ve ever seen is about the unChristlike behavior of bigots towards The Church of Jesus Christ, LDS.
Bogus argument.
Comment by Snow — January 5, 2008 @ 6:38 am
I believe that Mike Huckabee’s decision to say such a comment and to promote himself as the Christian candidate was a very smart idea for his campaign. He knew he didn’t have the funds, so he had to win by another way.
I spent a few days volunteering in Iowa in support for Mitt Romney. I went to a caucus in Sioux City and I personally spoke with two individuals who were caucusing for the first time. Both were in support of Huckabee. I think that his decision to promote himself as the Christian candidate helped him to win the support of many Christians who had previously never voted. With Huckabee’s decision to “not show” his anti-Romney ad was another thing to gain support of the Evangelical people in the state of Iowa. He has ran a lot of campaings, and I recognize his smart decisions.
I am obviously in support of Romney, but not because he is a Mormon. I believe that he is the best candidate and the most experienced among those running. He has definitely spent more time working and creating a group of supporters than any other candidate running in the state of Iowa. I feel like his leadership and experienced are unmatched against Huckabee.
Comment by Sheldon — January 5, 2008 @ 5:47 pm
As far as I can tell there has never been any false prophecies from Latter-day Saint prophets either. Every word that comes from their lips is not a prophecy.
Since the bible gives only bits and peices of people’s lives and not everything they said and did one could hardly say that everything that they said was a perfect prophecy either.
Something that many don’t know, however, is that Joseph Smith gave many a sermon against slavery and that black peoples around the world could always be members of the LDS Church. People outside the church think that because the priesthood responsibilities wasn’t fully restored to all men that it was done so out of bigotry. We believe that it wasn’t restored to anyone for over 1830 years. So 130 years isn’t that much more. One can even wonder why Christ took so long to come to the earth the first time and why he hasn’t come again. Perhaps it is because God’s schedule is his own or that it depends on conditions on the ground. A key thing to note is that when the priesthood was fully restored to all men in the church, members were praying for it. The U.S. was finally recognizing that all of its citizens should be treated equally and was making sure to reinforce its existing laws.
As someone who has seen bigotry and fought against it (My younger sister is black. In the third grade I had a physical fight with a 5th grade boy for calling me a nigger lover just as an example) I can honestly say that I don’t sense predjudism in the LDS church. In fact if anything our members that are black are elevated and admired. I know many couples who have chosen to marry someone who does not share their same skin color as well and they are not looked down upon or critisized. In fact our last bishop was from Columbia and his wife is blonde and blue-eyed.
Another thing that people don’t realize is that the Latterday Saints believe that all people on this earth will go to Heaven. We just believe that their are different degrees in Heaven. In other words all good people on this earth will go to a very wonderful place. We just believe that if you get married in the temple and you obey the promises you made in the temple then you can live with your family forever. Some may think that is weird because we are the only Christan faith that believes that and many put us down for it, but In the 21 years I have been a member of this church I have never heard anyone talk about another religion from the pupit at all or even personally except out of curiosity. True, we say that we are the only complete church, but that other churces have truth in them as well.In fact, I’ve heard our prophet speak many times about how good other people are no matter what their faith is and that we have many similar values. Perhaps some past prophets have said things in reaction to the way the LDS people have been treated. Long before polygamy was practiced or any of the excuses to hate Mormons were there they were burned out of their homes, killed, and tarred and feathered and I mean literally. So, they’d move from one part of the country to another looking for peace and a place to be free to worship God as they felt was true. Many ministers of many faiths as well as many communities became jealous of the financial success of the Mormons and worried that they would vote as a block and control the government. So,here we are after over 170 years later and many are still preaching the same old bigotries.
Can you imagine if churches around the country had their youth read the Golden Compass series and told them that those books spoke the truth about the Catholic Church. Well, that is exactly what has been going on to the LDS church for years with the film “The God Makers”. At 14 I was shown it at my church youth group and am aware of other churches in our area that have been shown it recently. It’s like this whisper campaign where they can say whatever they want even if it’s not true and no one has any way of defending themselves because they have no way of knowing what is being said. Very low class and sad if you ask me.
But that is what bigotry is. It’s based on gossip and predjudism. Not in truth.
Comment by La Wanda — January 8, 2008 @ 10:32 pm